Commenting 101

by Maria on September 17, 2008

in blogging

Quick sidebar before we get into today’s post: Have you seen the cute little ‘me’ over there in my sidebar? Tell me she’s not adorable. I think she and her sweet smile balance the bitch that’s flicking you off ‘me’ in the header out very nicely. Renée posted about the super talented Emila who makes the little things, tailored to look like you. They are only $2. She finishes them really quickly [I had mine in just a few hours].  Go get one!

***

Yesterday we covered blogging. Remember folks that these are just my personal wants for the way the blog world works. I’m not saying that I think you should change your entire way of going about things just because of what you read here. Take it all with a grain of salt. Tell me where your opinions differ, and why.

Today…

Commenting

1. Do not jump around from blog to blog commenting posts in the hopes that everyone will pay you a return visit. It’s tacky, and it’s usually very obvious. If you’re that interested in accumulating comments, I suggest a site like this, where that is everyone else’s intention as well and it’s put out there really plainly: pure reciprocation, and true promotion for your blog.  That site even provides a sense of community which I think it’s pretty cool. And remember that comments do not indicate traffic. You can have a huge amount of traffic and little comments or vice versa.

2. Do not feel pressured to reply to every comment you get. I used to do it before I realized that it would probably mean more to each person if I commented back only when I had something valid and worthwhile to say, rather than respond to everything with a generic or insincere line just for the fuck of it. So I stopped.  Doing that also makes it seem like you want to continue the conversation further so they’ll probably email you back and then expect something from you, which you don’t send because you’re overwhelmed from responding to all the other comments you have, or didn’t really want to comment back in the first place. Believe me – it’s a better idea to just save your words for when you really *want* to use them.

Oh, and those auto-responders? The ones that email you to say ‘Thank you for commenting and here’s how to subscribe!’? They are fine for the first comment a person leaves, but for every comment? That’s fucking INSULTING. If you were goddamn Dooce that shit would be insulting. And you’re not. So there.

3. READ the post. This sort of goes along with the number one in this post. DO NOT comment if you didn’t read it. Take for instance Raw Dawg  Buffalo. He gets a decent number of comments on each of his posts. It’s more than obvious to me that he doesn’t read my posts here – he skims, picks a line and addresses it.  If there’s a picture involved he usually sticks to commenting on that. I’m convinced that he picks a day out of the week and goes down his reader or blogroll and just leaves a comment for everyone there, trying to get it done quick and painlessly, with little effort.  Whether it’s to maintain his own comment numbers, or out of true desire to acknowledge his readers although he has limited time to do so, I don’t know.

Example? A recent guest post by an anonymous person who shared a painful story about their mother’s abusive boyfriend. He commented only on my disclaimer about it being a rented post. ‘Rentablog.com. Classic‘ was all he said. How disrespectful to my guest poster was that? Very, in my opinion. And yes, I am calling him out, but he’s a grown man. He can handle it. I doubt he actually reads this far in though, unless it’s because he sees he’s been linked. Heh.

4. If you reply on post pages, fine. I used to do this too, but then I realized how it was hard to remember to go back and check for their reply without subscribing to their comments which I’ve never, ever done. I get enough email, I’d prefer not to opt into more. If someone asks you a direct question – reply via email if they left a way to do so. Not everyone wants to, or has the time to check back and find your response.

5. Don’t talk too much about yourself in other people’s comments. Definitely not too much about your own blog. It’s perfectly acceptable to tell them how you’ve shared a similar experience or thought as the one they shared in their post, but to write a novella in their comments about you, your kids, or your blog is rude. It’s NOT YOUR BLOG. If they inspired you that much feel free to write a post on your own blog that starts with line like ‘Maria talked about XXX yesterday and instead of potentially looking like a narcissistic asshole on her blog, I decided to write a post on it too.

Edit: I believe #5 is being misunderstood. I’m not saying you should not, or should never talk about yourself. Just that your comment on someone else’s post shouldn’t be something that you could cut and paste onto your own blog (ie., long and not really about the post, or your views on it, but only you). It’s good to talk about yourself, I want you to talk about yourself here. Hence, why I’m doing the questions thing. But there’s overdoing it, in my opinion.

6. Do not go to someone’s blog as a thanks for visiting yours and say ‘I just wanted to thank you for stopping by my blog! Bye!‘ It’s rude. It sounds like that’s the only reason you came by and you truly don’t give a shit about their blog. If that’s all that you find is worth commenting on then don’t. Simple thank you’s are best handled via email and if they didn’t leave one, too bad.

The only time I do anything remotely similar to that is when I guest post, because I know most of the time I don’t read guest posts, and I assume others don’t either since it’s not what they came for. So, if I guest post, I’ll make sure to visit each person that commented on it. I comment on the actual content of the entry, and end the comment with ‘thanks for commenting on my guest post @ XXX.’ There’s the big thing there: not making the comment all about you by solely thanking them for reading your words whether on your blog or someone else’s.

No, I am not saying that I think if you guest somewhere you should do this – this is just something I do because when I see a guest post in my reader I usually hit ‘mark as read’ and I’m trying to maintain my own blog karma. In my head. Shut up.

7. State your commenting policy upfront. That’s especially useful to me because I curse a lot, and it’s useful to know if I can do so in your comments or not. So far, I’ve only slipped once with a big f-bomb in Momo’s comments and she kindly notified me of why she deleted it. I completely understood and respected that.  You can make people aware of what flies and what doesn’t at your spot very easily with one of these badges.

I don’t have a badge simply because anything goes in my comments. But, I tell you very plainly in my Exegesis section that I don’t delete comments.  I don’t know why, I just don’t. Maybe I will change that in the future, I don’t know. I have blocked an i.p. address, but that was because I had a non-blog ‘friend’ that commented only to attack the other commentators, and I asked him very nicely to stop doing it during a conversation we had. Then I discovered that the only real ‘troll’ I’ve ever had around here was commenting from the same exact IP. So I blocked that IP. I don’t play games. That shit was stupid. He claimed that it wasn’t him, it was a coworker he had recommended my blog to, but I never spoke to him again. I figure if it really was that, he could comment from home and so could they. I haven’t heard from ‘them’ since.’

8. Use a name, or a pseudonym. Posting under anonymous, even when it’s not a negative comment is annoying and it makes your comment mean less, no matter what it says.

9. Enable either comment moderation or CAPTCHA on your blog. I really don’t understand why you need both. If you’re moderating, don’t you have to approve everything anyway? Would it really be that much more of a hassle to delete spam? For the record: I HATE CAPTCHA. You won’t see it here. Ever. I swear it. I’m determined that the only true purpose of CAPTCHA is to prove to me that I’m dyslexic or blind. I never get that shit right the first try.

*Tomorrow, Basic Etiquette 101

Popular Posts:

{ 1 trackback }

Well, I’ve got a secret too. I’m not 20 years old, I’m really 32 I only have one leg and I like to sniff glue « Jupiter Sinclair
September 27, 2008 at 11:09 am

{ 62 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Ginny September 17, 2008 at 12:08 am

Commenting 101: Classic.

(Sorry, I couldn’t resist :p )

Excellent work here, Maria. I’m guilty of talking about myself too much in comments (oh crap, there I went again.)

I liked #2. When someone makes a comment about nothing, it’s really hard to reply to it.

The latest from Ginny…Why You Are NOT as Awesome as Bruce Dickinson

Reply

2 Avitable September 17, 2008 at 12:25 am

I disagree with you on replying to comments and subscribing to comments.

I hate when bloggers reply to a few commenters but ignore everyone else – makes me feel like it was a waste of my time to comment. Either reply to everyone in the comments, or reply to some people privately, or don’t do it at all.

I reply to every comment I get, with very few exceptions.

With regards to subscribing to comments: If you use Gmail, all of your replies will be in one email thread, and you have virtually an unlimited amount of space, so getting more email won’t hurt you. If someone has a comment subscription, you should do it!

That’s my stance and I’m sticking to it!

The latest from Avitable…Where did you put your wallet?

Reply

3 Mr Lady September 17, 2008 at 12:26 am

#1-#8 Uh huh.

#9 almost killed me. Dyslexic or blind? BWAHAHAHAHA! I couldn’t have said it better if I tried. And ditto on the Catchattica or whatever the hell it is. I’ll never have it, either.

The latest from Mr Lady…Personally, I Don’t Even See a Glass

Reply

4 Rachael September 17, 2008 at 12:43 am

First of all, I love your cute little RSS Maria! I noticed it earlier and pointed it out to my husband cause I thought it was so cute. I might have to get one.

Another great post in your little 101 series – I agree with everything you said. I HATE those automated responses to comments. I still reply to every comment I get (if the person provides an e-mail address), but my blog is still small and I totally have time to do that and don’t mind if someone e-mails me back at this point.

The latest from Rachael…Wordless Wednesday: My Blessings Abound

Reply

5 LaskiGal September 17, 2008 at 1:06 am

Maria, I love the cute little you on the sidebar. She is the very essence of you! Very cool and well worth the $2 (which I think is a total steal!).

Thanks for addressing this. I am most definitely guilty of #5 from time to time, but I swear it isn’t ’cause I’m all about me. I just have a tendency to go on and on when I read really good posts . . . um, like right now.

Bye.

The latest from LaskiGal…The Post About How Good I Look in a Swimsuit

Reply

6 Jobthingy September 17, 2008 at 1:31 am

it drives me bonkers with the moderation AND captshit.

great post. :)

The latest from Jobthingy…Fish Tales

Reply

7 Miss September 17, 2008 at 2:19 am

I respond to my comments by email. Thats just me. What bothers me is when I DO ask a question, and it goes unanswered.

The latest from Miss…For a good time call…

Reply

8 LiteralDan September 17, 2008 at 3:03 am

I’ve probably violated a lot of these rules now and then, but I know I regularly violate the “no talking about yourself” one all the time, for sure. Allow me to demonstrate:

I can see your point, but to me, when it’s appropriate, it’s a good thing– the comments make a blog a conversation instead of a speech, or at least a speech with a discussion afterwards. So the blogger talks about him- or herself, primarily, then finishes, and commenters take their turn and say, “Oh yeah that’s great, I have a similar story or experience” etc.

And again, just like real life conversations, that’s not always appropriate, and doing so excessively is tiresome and annoying, but by banning it, you’re just asking for a world of blogs where people talk all about themselves and commenters show up to blandly praise them or parrot back whatever they said. I don’t see the point. I like when people share their stories and thoughts based on whatever theme my post has set in their minds.

In rereading this, I realize that it sounds like I’m angrily ranting after being called out for something, but that’s just the way I sound sometimes– this is a great post, and a great series so far. It’s nice to have all these things said out in the open by someone who feels free enough to do so.

You rule, and I’m sure when it comes to blogging, you must be right and I am wrong, because you do it much, much better than I do.

The latest from LiteralDan…A conversation with D-: Does not compute

Reply

9 Maria
@maria0305
September 17, 2008 at 9:14 am

I think I probably wasn’t clear with what I’m talking about as far as making your comment all about yourself, but, I don’t know how better to explain it either.

I’m definitely of your same opinion and don’t want to encourage a system of echo chambers by any means, which is why I don’t delete comments, but there’s sharing your personal opinion, a thought or experience that you had and there’s writing a long, long comment, not necessarily focused on that opinion/thought/experience, but on you and yours.

I wish I was able to think of an example right now, but I can’t.

Reply

10 Bluestreak September 17, 2008 at 3:10 am

I think you hit everything. Great post.

The latest from Bluestreak…15 years in 10 bullet points

Reply

11 cindy September 17, 2008 at 3:34 am

Oh lordy you cracked me up with your calling out of raw dog, or whoever the hell he is!!! I seriously laughed out loud! HILARIOUS!
I, too hate CAPTCHA (I didn’t even know thats what it was called ’til now)!
I am looking forward to the next installment!

The latest from cindy…The first tooth…

Reply

12 dysfunctional mom September 17, 2008 at 3:52 am

I swear, you are reading my mind on some of these things.
And you’re right about comments in my opinion. I love seeing a comment from you because I know you actually read the post and felt the need to comment. You don’t just drop comments for the hell of it.

The latest from dysfunctional mom…I’m Charmed with the Proximidade! Or something.

Reply

13 Jo Beaufoix September 17, 2008 at 5:08 am

These last two posts have been great Maria. I think I have a tendency to waffle on in comments sometimes. I will try to stop it. :D

The latest from Jo Beaufoix…When I was 23…

Reply

14 Shania September 17, 2008 at 7:51 am

This is great! As a new blogger, these are very helpful. So now, to keep with it all being about me theme, I have a question: Let’s say I have 10 comments on a post. Out of those 10, three of them don’t have any way to respond to them. The other 7 I’ve emailed. Would it be a breach of blog ettiquette to respond only to those 3 in the comments?

The latest from Shania…We have confirmation…

Reply

15 Maria
@maria0305
September 17, 2008 at 9:28 am

I do that a lot. Sometimes I’m lazy and I just email directly back when I receive the comment in my email, sometimes it’s an answer I’d like to share with everyone so I comment on the post page and have it sent to the commentator’s email too.

And sometimes I just reply on the comment page because it’s not important.
:)

But, people do things differently – take for instance Avitable [2nd comment on this post]. He has good reason for thinking you should reply to everyone on the page and if you’re only going to respond to certain people, do it privately.

Your situation sounds a little like the one I had when I was on blogger, the one that made me give up replying to everyone – that damn noreply@blogger, and when I really had nothing else to say to some comments but something to say to others. You have to trust your gut. :)

Reply

16 Carolyn Online September 17, 2008 at 8:25 am

I’m glad you addressed this. I feel like there are secret blog codes that no one has written down so you never know if you’re violating them. The comment thing is the worst part. I can’t ever find the email of the people who commented and whoa there I go talking about myself.

The latest from Carolyn Online…What the eff word Ad Men?

Reply

17 Jupiter September 17, 2008 at 9:40 am

I am so guilty of #5.I am aware of it though.Usually by the time I’m done,I say to myself,”You really should have just written that on your own blog”.

#3…wow.Yes.Amen.In the past,I had 2 very regular “readers” who did that all the time. It’s funny though when people ask a stupid question in a comment that makes it extremely obvious they did not read the post,otherwise they wouldn’t have had to ask the question.Bugs the shit out of me…

Sharing this in my Google Reader cuz I know damn well there’s people out there who need to read this.

Reply

18 Kat September 17, 2008 at 10:31 am

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I HATE WORD VERIFICATION (I don’t even like the word Captcha). It is my goal to completely ban them from the bloggy world. How much freaking spam do people get? I have gotten MAYBE two pieces of spam and I have NEVER had the word verif on.

For all you other commenters out there can I tell you how difficult the word verifications are on someone who has dyslexia? It is evil. TAKE THEM OFF!!!!!

Love your list, Maria. I completely agree with all of it. Again.

The latest from Kat…Absent

Reply

19 April September 17, 2008 at 10:33 am

I suck at CAPTCHA too! I even copied and pasted CAPTCHA into this comment because I knew I’d misspell that!
All excellent advice, Maria.

The latest from April…Ex Communication

Reply

20 Maria September 17, 2008 at 11:09 am

This is good stuff, keep it coming! I’m such a n00b.

I have to admit I’m guilty of #5 pretty often. Usually on Sundry’s blog. She brings out some sort of insane confessional nature in me.

The latest from Maria…quite contrary

Reply

21 maggie, dammit September 17, 2008 at 11:21 am

I do everything wrong. I’m a blogging failure. There’s just to much to know! TOO MUCH TO KNOW!

And Captchkawhositwhatever just makes me feel stupid every. damn. time.

The latest from maggie, dammit…up for air

Reply

22 Natalie September 17, 2008 at 11:42 am

I wasn’t in total agreement with your last entry (I’m long winded, but it’s my blog and I’ve given up caring whether people like it), but this one hit the nail on the head for me.

There are certain bloggers who shall remain nameless, that come to my blog once or twice a month. It’s on a pretty regular schedule so that tells me they are just going down their blogroll. I appreciate the readers like YOU much more. You aren’t commenting so I come back to your blog, you are commenting because you are part of MY community and you like me. Or at least you are pretty good at making it look that way. :)

Oh look, I just talked about myself. Oops.

And CAPTCHA needs to just go away. I use Akismet only (well, I used to, I need to reinstate it) for comment moderation and I am proud to say I have only deleted one comment, EVER and it was also by a real life friend. Erm, ex boyfriend and he was aware of why I did it. heh.

Oops, talked about myself again, but at least you know I read your entry ;)

Reply

23 OHmommy
@OHmommy
September 17, 2008 at 12:07 pm

Phew.

I agree 100 and 10 percent w/each any everyone one of them Maria.

Back in the day, aka before Blogher, I used to comment back on nearly all of my comments (Not to gain readers) but to really be friendly with the community. I found a lot of awesome people this way. Honestly, I did.

And now. I think I found a solution. I have my top commenters on the bottom of my blog. I check in about twice a week with all of them. I scroll through their posts from the week and comment on the ones that really interest me.

I really like that it is working for me. I still feel connected to my readers.

The latest from OHmommy…To my daughter, on her 18 month birthday, 32 days late

Reply

24 Tara R. September 17, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Great lists and very helpful to me. I’ve thought about a lot of these things before, but just didn’t know how to address them. I like commenting back in my comments, but have also followed up with more personal emails where I felt it was appropriate. I appreciate you putting this out there, it helps to have feed back on these issues.

The latest from Tara R….Random Wednesday ~ listening

Reply

25 leendaluu September 17, 2008 at 12:21 pm

After you finish ‘Dance,dance’ you should author ” Blogging for Idiots”. Love your lessons and I can certainly put some of this advice into play.

Reply

26 Lynette September 17, 2008 at 12:40 pm

Well, I’m a fairly new blogger, but I do get these tips. I hate captcha (CAPTCHA?) because I’m blind and I don’t need a reminder.

(and I’m going to say FUCK because you said I can)

The latest from Lynette…Psht…Mahna Mahna

Reply

27 tracey September 17, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Lovely list. I agree with it all! I never email a reply because, well, I use BLOGGER and that just doesn’t work well. I DO make an effort to visit everyone’s blog who has commented and leave a comment there, at least once. I never say “Thanks for visiting” though because I really don’t care for those comments, myself. Kind of a “I didn’t really read your post and I don’t care for your blog but I feel obligated to comment here…”

If I stumble upon your blog via a comment, I’ll bookmark it and read it till I feel overwhelmed and need to make cut-backs on my reads. It’s a sad fact of blogging, but true!

The latest from tracey…A hole in the head’s better than a hole in your coffee cup

Reply

Leave a Comment

CommentLuv Enabled

Subscribe without commenting

Previous post:

Next post: