Commenting 101

by Maria on September 17, 2008

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Quick sidebar before we get into today’s post: Have you seen the cute little ‘me’ over there in my sidebar? Tell me she’s not adorable. I think she and her sweet smile balance the bitch that’s flicking you off ‘me’ in the header out very nicely. Renée posted about the super talented Emila who makes the little things, tailored to look like you. They are only $2. She finishes them really quickly [I had mine in just a few hours].  Go get one!

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Yesterday we covered blogging. Remember folks that these are just my personal wants for the way the blog world works. I’m not saying that I think you should change your entire way of going about things just because of what you read here. Take it all with a grain of salt. Tell me where your opinions differ, and why.

Today…

Commenting

1. Do not jump around from blog to blog commenting posts in the hopes that everyone will pay you a return visit. It’s tacky, and it’s usually very obvious. If you’re that interested in accumulating comments, I suggest a site like this, where that is everyone else’s intention as well and it’s put out there really plainly: pure reciprocation, and true promotion for your blog.  That site even provides a sense of community which I think it’s pretty cool. And remember that comments do not indicate traffic. You can have a huge amount of traffic and little comments or vice versa.

2. Do not feel pressured to reply to every comment you get. I used to do it before I realized that it would probably mean more to each person if I commented back only when I had something valid and worthwhile to say, rather than respond to everything with a generic or insincere line just for the fuck of it. So I stopped.  Doing that also makes it seem like you want to continue the conversation further so they’ll probably email you back and then expect something from you, which you don’t send because you’re overwhelmed from responding to all the other comments you have, or didn’t really want to comment back in the first place. Believe me – it’s a better idea to just save your words for when you really *want* to use them.

Oh, and those auto-responders? The ones that email you to say ‘Thank you for commenting and here’s how to subscribe!’? They are fine for the first comment a person leaves, but for every comment? That’s fucking INSULTING. If you were goddamn Dooce that shit would be insulting. And you’re not. So there.

3. READ the post. This sort of goes along with the number one in this post. DO NOT comment if you didn’t read it. Take for instance Raw Dawg  Buffalo. He gets a decent number of comments on each of his posts. It’s more than obvious to me that he doesn’t read my posts here – he skims, picks a line and addresses it.  If there’s a picture involved he usually sticks to commenting on that. I’m convinced that he picks a day out of the week and goes down his reader or blogroll and just leaves a comment for everyone there, trying to get it done quick and painlessly, with little effort.  Whether it’s to maintain his own comment numbers, or out of true desire to acknowledge his readers although he has limited time to do so, I don’t know.

Example? A recent guest post by an anonymous person who shared a painful story about their mother’s abusive boyfriend. He commented only on my disclaimer about it being a rented post. ‘Rentablog.com. Classic‘ was all he said. How disrespectful to my guest poster was that? Very, in my opinion. And yes, I am calling him out, but he’s a grown man. He can handle it. I doubt he actually reads this far in though, unless it’s because he sees he’s been linked. Heh.

4. If you reply on post pages, fine. I used to do this too, but then I realized how it was hard to remember to go back and check for their reply without subscribing to their comments which I’ve never, ever done. I get enough email, I’d prefer not to opt into more. If someone asks you a direct question – reply via email if they left a way to do so. Not everyone wants to, or has the time to check back and find your response.

5. Don’t talk too much about yourself in other people’s comments. Definitely not too much about your own blog. It’s perfectly acceptable to tell them how you’ve shared a similar experience or thought as the one they shared in their post, but to write a novella in their comments about you, your kids, or your blog is rude. It’s NOT YOUR BLOG. If they inspired you that much feel free to write a post on your own blog that starts with line like ‘Maria talked about XXX yesterday and instead of potentially looking like a narcissistic asshole on her blog, I decided to write a post on it too.

Edit: I believe #5 is being misunderstood. I’m not saying you should not, or should never talk about yourself. Just that your comment on someone else’s post shouldn’t be something that you could cut and paste onto your own blog (ie., long and not really about the post, or your views on it, but only you). It’s good to talk about yourself, I want you to talk about yourself here. Hence, why I’m doing the questions thing. But there’s overdoing it, in my opinion.

6. Do not go to someone’s blog as a thanks for visiting yours and say ‘I just wanted to thank you for stopping by my blog! Bye!‘ It’s rude. It sounds like that’s the only reason you came by and you truly don’t give a shit about their blog. If that’s all that you find is worth commenting on then don’t. Simple thank you’s are best handled via email and if they didn’t leave one, too bad.

The only time I do anything remotely similar to that is when I guest post, because I know most of the time I don’t read guest posts, and I assume others don’t either since it’s not what they came for. So, if I guest post, I’ll make sure to visit each person that commented on it. I comment on the actual content of the entry, and end the comment with ‘thanks for commenting on my guest post @ XXX.’ There’s the big thing there: not making the comment all about you by solely thanking them for reading your words whether on your blog or someone else’s.

No, I am not saying that I think if you guest somewhere you should do this – this is just something I do because when I see a guest post in my reader I usually hit ‘mark as read’ and I’m trying to maintain my own blog karma. In my head. Shut up.

7. State your commenting policy upfront. That’s especially useful to me because I curse a lot, and it’s useful to know if I can do so in your comments or not. So far, I’ve only slipped once with a big f-bomb in Momo’s comments and she kindly notified me of why she deleted it. I completely understood and respected that.  You can make people aware of what flies and what doesn’t at your spot very easily with one of these badges.

I don’t have a badge simply because anything goes in my comments. But, I tell you very plainly in my Exegesis section that I don’t delete comments.  I don’t know why, I just don’t. Maybe I will change that in the future, I don’t know. I have blocked an i.p. address, but that was because I had a non-blog ‘friend’ that commented only to attack the other commentators, and I asked him very nicely to stop doing it during a conversation we had. Then I discovered that the only real ‘troll’ I’ve ever had around here was commenting from the same exact IP. So I blocked that IP. I don’t play games. That shit was stupid. He claimed that it wasn’t him, it was a coworker he had recommended my blog to, but I never spoke to him again. I figure if it really was that, he could comment from home and so could they. I haven’t heard from ‘them’ since.’

8. Use a name, or a pseudonym. Posting under anonymous, even when it’s not a negative comment is annoying and it makes your comment mean less, no matter what it says.

9. Enable either comment moderation or CAPTCHA on your blog. I really don’t understand why you need both. If you’re moderating, don’t you have to approve everything anyway? Would it really be that much more of a hassle to delete spam? For the record: I HATE CAPTCHA. You won’t see it here. Ever. I swear it. I’m determined that the only true purpose of CAPTCHA is to prove to me that I’m dyslexic or blind. I never get that shit right the first try.

*Tomorrow, Basic Etiquette 101

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1 Renée aka Mekhismom September 17, 2008 at 1:07 pm

What a great primer for bloggers. More people should be reading this series. Actually loads of people are reading this series – what I mean to say is this should be something that every blogger reads.

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2 anglophilefootballfanatic September 17, 2008 at 1:15 pm

I guess I am opposite of you on #2. I do try to reply to almost every single comment. And, that is the reason I went self-host. If someone takes time out of their day to comment, I would like to say, “Thank you.”

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3 Molly September 17, 2008 at 2:31 pm

CAPTCHA makes me feel like I am being set up to fail (though I admit to using the ol’ word verification)

I wax and wane on replying to comments, sometimes I do if they ask something or if I have an update, but I don’t expect they are read so I should really just email back. Hmm, yes I think I should!

Love the new sidebar you, super cute and a steal at $2!

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4 Jennifer, Playgroups are no place for children September 17, 2008 at 2:33 pm

Reading through the comments just reiterates that in blogging, you can’t make everyone happy.

Replying to comments is such a huge issue for people. I reply in my comments section, but not to everyone. It’s not because I’m a bitch or I’m rude or that I don’t care about every comment, it’s just that sometimes I don’t have a response to a particular comment.

It’s a no-win situation.

Great tips, Maria!

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5 Jennifer, Playgroups are no place for children September 17, 2008 at 2:37 pm

One more thing, I’m not sure if you know about the comment plugin that allows you to reply to commenters IN THE COMMENTS SECTION! It’s fabulous!

http://www.u-g-h.com/wordpress-plugins/wordpress-plugin-comment-email-responder/

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6 lena September 17, 2008 at 3:15 pm

You probably didn’t mean to be funny, but this shit is hilarious.

You’ve also prompted me to figure out how to get an about me page for my blogger … assuming that school and Coco let up enough for me to post there regularly.

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7 Shamelessly Sassy September 17, 2008 at 4:12 pm

First off, Captcha makes me want to poke myself in the eye. I never know what those damn things say, and if it takes me more than 2 times to get it right, I just decline to comment. As a blogger, I think it is insulting when I feel like someone just comments on my blog in hopes of me commenting on theirs. When I first started blogging, I didn’t mind, but I’ve moved on to wanting readers who have truly taken the time to read what I’ve said, even when it is crazy. I think it is always obvious when certain bloggers are out for comments; and in a neurotic fashion, make promises or discuss who and how they will comment. Comments aren’t always indicative of traffic or writing quality anyway. I don’t know; I just think it’s played out. I’d rather have a lot of faithful readers than a lot of commenters that aren’t paying attention but are merely hoping for reciprocation. (PS. I’ve been typing this comment FOREVER. I had to distract my kid with crayons twice.)

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8 Mrs. Kitty September 17, 2008 at 4:56 pm

Oooh, I feel like the kid with her hand in the cookie jar. I’m totally guilty of #2, #5, and sometimes #6 (but only after I make a real comment). I was trying to be the opposite of rude, rather just showing my appreciation for them coming over to my place. Now here I am talking too much about myself. *slaps my own hand*

Thanks for the talking too. Will rethink things.

Oh and I couldn’t agree more about that damn Captcha.

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9 Angella September 17, 2008 at 4:56 pm

Captcha is of the devil.

I fully agree on each pther point as well. I promise I did not skim ;)

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10 amy September 17, 2008 at 5:21 pm

Once again, I totally agree with you on all these points. And is CAPTCHA that crap where you have to reproduce the letters? Kills me everytime!

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11 Mandy September 17, 2008 at 5:34 pm

Well, everyone seems to have slightly different “rules”, although I think there’s a general truth to a lot of what you say.

Personally, I try to be sincere in my commenting. I think even if I am explaining my situation a little sometimes (in the right context), my heart is in the right place. I figure the blogger will know that. Hopefully.

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12 Miss Grace September 17, 2008 at 7:36 pm

I never get the word verification thingies right when I have to enter them either BUT, I have them on my blog because I don’t want to moderate my comments (I’m not always available), and I don’t want SPAM.

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13 sky girl September 17, 2008 at 7:57 pm

I find myself nodding along with your points. I think I’m going to link to this little series you have.

I hate word verification but found that I had no choice when I started to get those auto comment things.

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14 Jill September 17, 2008 at 8:40 pm

I was going to mention lame comments that are purely so the commenter can get some action on their blog, but I get so few I didn’t want to alienate the few commenters that I have!

Good point though. Why bother blogging if you don’t get to actually read anything and spend all your time jumping from blog to blog “spreading your seed”?

P.S. I’m copying you and getting an RSS Dolly of my own!

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15 Meg September 17, 2008 at 9:17 pm

Great advice. But you said nothing about drinking and blogging. ;)

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16 Margie September 17, 2008 at 9:21 pm

Oops. Now I am going to be all self-consious worrying about how many of these things I am doing. But, as my hubby said to me the other day,”if you think you’re being followed and you REALLY are… are you still being paranoid?” Hmmm.

I have to say though, I do like it when the comment section turns into a conversation between the author and the different visitors- that’s a big part of the enjoyment of reading (and commenting) for me.

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17 Siobhan September 17, 2008 at 9:30 pm

M, I agree with you here. That Raw Dawg Buffalo crap ticks me off no end. I hate that kinda crap. I totally agree with comments in the comments, it’s hard for me to remember who does it and who doesn’t; and just like you, the last thing I want to do is subscribe to a whole bunch of comments and sit and sift through my e-mail all frickin day.

Great post.

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18 conversemomma September 17, 2008 at 11:06 pm

Amen to most of what you said. But, I disagree about the don’t talk about yourself rule. I mean sure there are limits. But, when people share something of themselves it is probably because they can relate to your piece, it resonates, they are making connections. I sorta like that, oh but this ain’t about me, is it. Bygones! Anyway, it is better than the obligatory, oh you rock, sunshine up the old ass comments that people usually leave when they have nothing more intelligent to say.

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19 Karen MEG September 17, 2008 at 11:44 pm

Excellent. I am all over the place with commenting, and I feel that I offend some of the people most of the time, or most of the people some of the time … or I’m just confused! I’ve tried to e:mail responses if I can find an e:mail (blogger suchs that way) , because, as someone else pointed out, I don’t want to make the other commenters feel excluded. Or perhaps I should just respond to all on my comments page.

Then I would just do what I always do, end up writing a novel about myself in a comment …. but this would be on my own bloody blog!!! :)

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20 BusyDad September 17, 2008 at 11:54 pm

You rule. That is all. Ok, that’s not all. I love this. I’m straddling the line of your rules a little bit. First I comment on the post page, but that’s because usually I provide info or backstory that may be interesting to others. But because I respond to a few, I feel like an asshole if I don’t respond to all. So I do. BUT if someone asks a question, I usually email them. If I don’t respond, it’ll be that I don’t respond to ANYBODY on that post. All or nothing. And fuck. I just broke your rule of excessively talking about myself. Damn. I suck. You rule. End of story.

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21 Elaine September 17, 2008 at 11:59 pm

I totally agree with your rules, especially about commenting – or ‘pity’ commenting or commenting to get more visits/comments to your blog. That’s just sad.

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22 Ashley September 18, 2008 at 12:27 am

I’ll just settle with “I suck”. I will most likely break several of these rules before this comment is even over.

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23 Sybil Law September 18, 2008 at 12:35 am

I like the way you do things because it fits you completely. I also like how Avitable does his thing. I think if you’re really reading a blog for the pleasure of getting to know a person and their mind, then you get a feel for how they do things and accept it. If something bothers you, then move along.
You’re just awesome. :)

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24 Kelley September 18, 2008 at 6:19 am

Great post! Come visit my blog!!

Bwaaaa haaaa haaaaaa! I couldn’t resist.

I delete that shit every single time. I even do it with a shout of ‘deleted bwaaaa haaaaahaaaaaa!’

Cause I am freaky.

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25 JCK September 18, 2008 at 10:21 am

I’m all about ME on your blog. Seriously, you had some really good points. I have to get rid of the guilts for not responding to everyone. I just hope they know that I appreciate the comments.

Thanks for the tip on blocking IP addresses. Very clever.

OH, and I love your new Avatar up there on the right. She does balance out the middle finger girl. ;)

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